Point is, what if the button breaks or something? Without any other option you'd be unable to get the disc out. Unless you're willing to use the paperclip method everytime you want to change disc.
I'm not getting one, simply because:
-No Money for one.
-No 4K TV so there's no point.
-No interest in the 4K itself anyways, everything the Xbox One X can do that I care about can be done by the Standard Xbox One too.
Plus while Xbox is my main platform, I'm not a fanboy of it. I'm literally way more excited to get a Nintendo Wii U than I'd be for an Xbox One X. Yes, you read it right, not a Switch, a Wii U.
Yeah, you're not fooling me here. Your expressions, ideals and writing makes it obvious. And the V36 in your gt further proves it. You know, people here aren't just a bunch of whiny stupid kids as opposed to what you may think.
Well that's because people got tired of you trying so hard to shut them down Vamp, a different gt isn't gonna help. Maybe this thread didn't die, maybe it's just taking a break from your suck-up ***.
Xbox isn't what it used to, that I agree with, they keep launching new technology like the Xbox One X and connecting with the PC more every time, but there isn't a great deal of things to play. Personally I prefer to play any Halo game with friends in Coop PvE or Custom Games, which I feel are a very underrated thing of Halo 5 since it has easily the best Custom Games out of the whole franchise, and I'm also a big fan of Gears of War, and that's good enough for me. I personally only need one game to find the platform enjoyable, and Xbox having 2 franchises in my Top 3 favorite franchises is precisely why I play Xbox. I don't play almost anything outside of that, and to me personally PS4 doesn't have anything that catches my eye, I'd take a Nintendo Switch over a PS4 any day if you ask me.
I know I said that I was gonna take a break but I have plenty of time right now so yeah...
Actually Tripper, the thing with Microsoft and Bungie was that Bungie wanted to leave Halo after Halo 3 to focus on other games and maybe return to it after a few years, but Microsoft wanted Bungie to continue with Halo, so they went on up to Reach according to their deal to make 5 total Microsoft-exclusive games, all being Halo. After that the rights of Halo went to Microsoft as Bungie didn't want to go on so Microsoft created 343 Industries for them to get the rights and keep making Halo, while Bungie went on to make Destiny. Imo Halo isn't dead, there are still many fans, it's just not the king shooter it was, mainly due to the population splitting and other shooters rising on the market. All good things must come to an end, unfortunately. But I just wanted to clear that bit out, back on topic, I'm just asking one thing: Could you people at least be polite here? I mean, if at least you guys want your accounts back, you have a bigger chance by being polite honestly, because the way Microsoft is doing now is over the top, but as much as I hate to be that guy that says it, just complaining and arguing here won't help, things must be sorted out carefully and with constructive points for overall improvements, after all we all are the customers, and customers should go first because without them there's no profit. Vamp at this point looks to me like either a troll that just wants to get people mad here or is a narrow minded Xbox fanboy who will always defend his "gods". Either way, my point is that my arguing here will only make things worse, so I ask to try to expose things out carefully and with a sense of criticism for everyone to improve, including Microsoft. You don't have to, but I think that if you do it will be for the better.
You know, I'm not getting entertained no longer by this conversation, Vamp, I'll never give up my freedom of speech to anything or anyone, my personal beliefs and principles are way above a random document that tells me how to behave, and nothing will ever change that. It's clear that people like you are those that would never forgive a criminal if they are to reinsert, and this isn't even close to being as bad, yet the punishment is much worse, at least you eventually get out of prison, but this is permanent. I'm probably gonna take a break from replying because I already said everything I had to. One last thing though, my gt reads Spartan so don't play with my name please, if you want you may even call me by my actual name which can be found in my Xbox profile. I still support them adding the ability to pay a fee to recover the account as well as unban the ones that were unfairly banned for no reason, the ET isn't perfect, in fact it's far from it.
Vamp, what did you say? Read the two Xbox Bibles? First off, calling it a Bible means nothing to me since I'm atheist, but that's irrelevant here. I said I don't care about rules, I don't even care about laws! I just follow my judgment and do my stuff, staying away from issue, but not because some piece of paper says so, I honestly have little to no respect for the CoC, it just turns out luckily for Microsoft my personality fits with their standards which are nowadays filtering any player they don't like. Xbox Live is a community for EVERYONE where EVERYONE can have fun, it's a place to play! Even a job has less rules and less severe punishments, getting banned kills your persona in Xbox Live, they are basically doing a virtual death sentence! Nobody deserves that! Increase the ban periods if you like but don't perma ban, less for communicate. As I said, I have a 10yo sister who swears quite a bit, and it's great! Swearing isn't bad, they're just words that society has put as bad. Personally it's an excellent way to calm down when angry, and I dislike whenever any place berates someone for swearing. I've been insulted SO MANY TIMES in life that I don't care at all anymore. The best way to be immune to a disease is getting it, same applies. You heard of the saying "What doesn't kill you makes you stronger"? In my uncle's job his boss swears a lot when people aren't making their job right, but he allows the employees to swear too, and they're actually good! Swearing is part of speech, and I firmly believe in total and absolute freedom of speech, after all words don't hurt if you don't let them hurt you.
Yeah, I understand you guys. Even though I haven't been perma banned myself (thank goodness), I have some good friends who have been banned and I know what they've lost, as I said, one got his account stolen and used for harassment which got it banned, other one started to insult a cheater and got reported, and another one I don't remember but he actually shattered his Xbox afterwards and never returned.
I don't wanna get into a deep conversation, but I've always been the weirdo outcast that dislikes most social interactions and took very long to finally get online, but when I did, man I fell in love with it for many reasons I don't find necessary to say, but I've met amazing friends over it that far surpass any real life friend I've had, and went to crazy experiences, funny moments, rewarding accomplishments, outrageous failures, it all both good and bad comes to my profile, without it my Xbox Live which is easily the biggest part of my life would be over. Sure I've met annoying idiots but random insults don't really annoy me, I'm pretty much immune, after all when someone does it that's to trigger me and I don't fall for that. If I report someone for communications it's very uncommon and only when they keep spamming me even after blocking them by using alts. If I report it'd be to someone who for example team kills me on purpose or exploits game bugs because those ruin the fun. Seeing someone insulting is harmless after all, the issue I see mostly is that I personally don't understand why someone fights back to defend their pride, because to me they just look like they're giving the trolls what they want, I do reply but in a particular way, in fact if someone wants to see I invite you to message me on the Xbox with random trash talking, I promise I won't report.
About debating with Vamp, I don't really care, I have quite the patience and the guy already has a big group of haters around, I mentioned him to some of my friends and they already agree with me and if I get his statements about Nak3d Eli go out he'll REALLY anger quite a bunch of people. The only person I've ever met who talked to me with the CoC on hands was a guy who reported me for cheating in Halo 5 because I killed him with a gun that he thought was modded when it was just a special weapon variant and blocked me before I could explain myself, merely saying that he'd been told to report and block anyone who doesn't follow it by the book. Now that was a sad guy.
You know, after being here for a small while I've decided to choose a side and officially support the ones that truly need it here from the big bad guy who rules them all with an unforgiving and ruthless iron fist: Microsoft.
Xbox Live should be a place for everyone to have fun, but then there's always the sad person who gets *** after getting a mean comment and go cry Big Daddy Microsoft "Hey, this guy is being mean to me, I don't like him, ban him!" thing. Hell, yesterday there was someone in a Halo recruitment lobby I was in who reported us because he was mad because we wouldn't let him out, now that's being so sad, when your life is so boring and depressing that you only find enjoyment by taking it away from others, and that goes for everyone who reports every single nitpick they find on players because they want them to get banned.
Xbox Live is a place for EVERYONE to go, and have fun, disconnecting from the real life issues, and many players have been working hard for years to get where they are in Xbox for Microsoft to kick them away and throw everything they've been working for to the trash can because they trash talked. If the CoC says that trash talking is ok why do they ban trash talkers now? My bet? They're either putting automated bots reviewing the reports who can't differentiate trash talk from harassment or everyone at the ET are now a bunch of SJWs who deem nearly everything as bad or offensive.
Actually Vamp, Nak3d Eli never harassed anyone, he had a pretty big reputation on the Halo Community and at some extent the Xbox Live Community, he didn't get perma banned, he got his gt banned and reset, and he couldn't get it back, he tried to contact Microsoft but they completely ignored him after more than a decade of mutual support, and that's BS.
Xbox Live isn't a child friendly environment in where everyone is safe and happy, there will always be trolls, cheaters and worst stuff, and Microsoft can't deal with everything, if they did they'd lose a vast majority of their population, but what they are doing is banning people for a single swear word, probably out of complaints sent by damn SJWs that can't take a single swear word without making a big deal about it even if it's joking. I can't get mad without swearing, because by gettting mad I mean REALLY mad, everyone has full rage moments where they lose common sense, and it can happen while playing. There are several people I know that have anger issues and they can rage easily, but that doesn't make them bad. Many people here are nice if you set aside the "They got banned so they're bad people" mentality and simply think of them as people that think differently of you and have a pretty big problem.
And you still didn't get my question: If you were to get banned, how would you feel like? What would be your reaction upon seeing the message that you got banned? Me, I'd be absolutely enraged and I'd probably wreck half of my house at the very least, because Xbox Live is a very big part of my life and it'd be nearly over if they yank it away from me because I cursed in a message. There's way worse stuff people can do yet Microsoft has set their eyes on people who use bad words as if anyone has ever heard them before. Hell, my cousins and my sister swear since they were 5, so it's not a big deal, at least not nearly as big as they make it look like!
Ok, take for example the case of Nak3d Eli, who used to be a known and respected Halo YouTuber mostly known for his tip videos and speedruns. He was a respectful customer, Microsoft supported him and had a good connection, but when Microsoft changed its policy they banned his gamertag for being "Potentially Inappropriate" even though he had been using it for over 10 years without issue and he even had one achievement named after him on Halo: The Master Chief Collection (the achievement being called "Naked Tyrant") but Microsoft turned their back on him and killed his identity after years of support. He quitted Xbox and YouTube because of Microsoft! Now you can't tell me here that's not unfair, because it is!
What ever happened to chill, casual and fun-driven players who just want to play games peacefully? Oh yeah, they got salty one day by a troll cheater (which happens to everyone), said one bad word and got banned.
In all seriousness now, Vamp, do you really think everyone reads and follows the CoC like a religious person follows the Bible? No! People are on Xbox to have fun without having to worry about this kinda s***! Me, I consider myself a free spirit. I don't care about the rules or protocols, I do what makes me happy. I haven't gotten in trouble because I don't like pointless conflicts, not because some document told me to. I've gotten mad and gone over the edge a couple of times, and that happens to everyone. People shouldn't be punished for getting mad as it's in humans' nature. And it's been stated, the reason because this thread has 800 votes is because the vast majority of players don't come here after being banned, they either start over or quit Xbox, because Microsoft's policy has become too strict, and the way the rules go now isn't what many people originally agreed to according to your own words. After 7+ years of loyalty for many fans they said "Hey, we're changing the deal and if you disagree f*** off, if you break it we kick you out, you're expendable anyways". And that's the true BS here. Plus you still haven't told me, what would YOU personally do or think in the hypothetical event you got banned? Would you just deal with it happily? I doubt it.
Exactly! People do game breaking exploits or go against the rules such as team killing or getting out of map and they get away with it. Not long ago I was playing Halo 5 and I got killed by someone who was firing a weapon twice as fast as the weapon allows by exploiting a glitch. Ever since the glitch got patched but the guy went away with it. Not to mention how many times I've been team killed on purpose by a troll. That deserves more of a ban, I can stand insults but breaking the game and ruining the fun is something I can't tolerate. The ET needs to get their priorities checked, because to make it worse people even post this kind of s*** on YouTube for others to watch and do the same, and apparently there isn't a punishment for that, which is stupid.
As I said I only report from communication when someone is really crossing the line, if they just send me a basic insult I can bear with that easily, while I don't like trash talking I do swear and find it good for stress, I just keep it to me and friends just in case someone gets ***.
Vamp, don't blame Square without proof please, haven't you heard the thing of "Everyone's innocent until proven guilty"? I'm gonna assume you were the teacher's favorite at school. Many people find it difficult to move on from this, I would simply be unable to move on if I got banned since my Gaming life is one of the few things I have and hold on to. Tell me yourself how would you feel in the hypothetical event of you getting banned. Also, again, it's Spartan, with an N at the end.
Yeah, I mean, I'm not against trash talkers, I just personally dislike them because I like to see more educated people. If someone likes trash talking, I'm ok with them, they can do whatever they want, just don't get me involved into it. It's like if a gay person has a crush on me: I'm not into it, but I'll let them do what they want. It's when trash talking becomes pure harassment when I report. I remember this one guy who kept on spamming me with s*** everyday, and I ended up reporting him and getting him banned because he rightfully deserved it, also because his behavior in the game was essentially cheating (he and his friends spawn killed me and my team the whole game), but guy created other accounts to spam me and even got another new Xbox for the sake of it after he got console banned. That was probably some rich kid that thought he could do whatever he wanted without consequences.
I actually find the in-game behavior a bigger reason to report than the communication itself, it's much more bothersome when someone cheats and exploits a game bug than when they send me s***.
I'm honestly a very big Halo fan since 2006, but I never got Xbox Live until 2014 and by then the population for Halo 3 was pretty much dead so I played Reach, I wish I would've been there back in the day though.
If they were to go ban people for not spending enough money then I'd be very much *** XD
I keep saying, I don't like trash talkers myself but I can bear with them easily, if they annoy me I block them, if they straight up keep spamming me insults and threats THEN is when I report. When it comes to defending myself I do it in a calm, polite and rather particular way.
Well, that sounds like a really crappy and unfair thing. Gotta say that defending yourself from trash talkers isn't the best solution as many people actually do it to get a reply from you to report it. I personally reply with semi-polite answers or simply block them, but still, it's like giving you a life sentence for killing someone in self defense in a "Kill or be killed" scenario. However, perma banning you from communications for that is exaggerated, and perma banning your account after that was borderline stupid, I mean if you already were suspended from talking what excuse did they have for perma banning you?
I keep saying, the ET needs to be closer to players and understand their problems and not be so damn strict as they are nowadays, probably afraid of complaints from overprotective parents whose kids were insulted in a game and went to cry. I swear, if any of this crap ever happens to me I don't even know what will I do, but nothing good, that I can say it.
Microsoft is getting a bad reputation out of things like this, and that's clearly causing them to lose people, and with less people less money, which is the only thing they really care about, so this is actually doing them bad. I would honestly like to meet the higher-ups at the ET just to see what are their views on this and to express my thoughts (shared by quite some people) directly to them, because this is just UNFAIR!
Well, aReA, I personally have a VERY HIGH level of patience and a big distaste for conflicts, so I always keep the politeness even to people I hate (not the case here) to avoid it. I've been bullied lots of times, back in high school I was a "bully target", and yet I only lost it once in all the years in high school for reasons I don't find necessary to say, but I've been developing and enhancing for years a calm and somewhat respectful attitude even in tough situations, especially growing nearly immune to insults, threats and other verbal abuse. I don't like it for obvious reasons, but I can perfectly stand it, and given how Xbox Live takes physical abuse out of the equation I can stand it much better. Even with physical abuse involved, I never come down to fists, all I remember from my life as physical abuse from my end is mostly pushing people, never a single punch. I'm nearly a pacifist: I have anger and hate but seldom let it affect me and instead find alternative solutions.
Vamp, I gotta say, I honestly forgot about the existence of console bans, I feel kinda stupid for that, but yeah, even then I still think of Account Ban as a death sentence because it essentially erases your identity from Xbox Live killing your virtual self. I'm thinking now of a Console Ban and I find it as something as severe as not killing an identity, but destroying the house with all its residents in it, as you also destroy every other profile in it (yeah, I know those can be recovered but usually most people don't even bother). But Console Bans are very severe and only applied in extreme cases, so I'll leave them aside.
I can somewhat understand you being a fan on Microsoft (don't really know why but that's up to you and that's ok), but while I don't hate on Microsoft I don't support it either, I find it like a nation's government: I don't hate them or love them, I just don't care but at least they're there to keep order, else there'd be anarchy. I'm here not for Microsoft but for the community to voice myself out and hope it someday contributes to make Xbox Live better for everywhere, as both have a mutual relationship, the Community needs Xbox and viceversa, and to me it currently looks like the insustry is favoring more Xbox, while I think the benefit should be equally as good for both parties. I've always been someone up for freedom and let everyone do as they wish to be happy as long as it doesn't involve hurting others in the process, and I apply that here too. I also think that everyone always can change and realize their mistakes, and everyone deserves a chance for redemption if they truly change, regardless of their past actions. But hey, I'm possibly getting into very deep territory and those are just my thoughts, I don't blame anyone for disagreeing, I just ask for it to be polite and constructive.
I repeat that I haven't read the entire thread, so I don't know the full thing. Plus I'm being polite, because I do my best to be polite with everyone.
Now Vamp, I would like to point out how I find your attitude sort of hypocritical as you say you only use trolling and trash talking here while you complain about the ones that do it on Xbox Live, because that means you're simply obeying the rules but here it isn't the same, less with an alt, so you get the chance of doing what you refrain from doing on Xbox Live, I'm NEVER agressive or trolling against anyone anywhere because I don't like it, not because the rules say it, I'm at most teasing with friends and maybe just a little bit trolling, but having confidence it's more acceptable.
I do find Xbox Live similar to real life, it's essentially a virtual world in where you can interact with others and do all kinds of things both on your own and in groups, and if you mess up, there are these people watching over that try to maintain safety, the level of justice depending on the country or region you live on, the main differences being the lack of physical contact and Xbox Live having universal rules. Thing is that a perma ban is essentially Xbox's death penalty, as you kill someone's account and identity, losing everything that person has been working for and even forcing them to re-buy their games (this latter thing being borderline stupid IMO), and I believe it shouldn't be applied unless in severe cases, communication NOT being one of them unless is very severe, such as constant threatening. And fyi, no, I haven't EVER played any sport in my life and I avoid watching them, and I would only compare them to its gaming counterpart the eSports, which I personally dislike equally as much, but that's just personal opinion there.
Online Playing must be rated E? That I greatly disagree with. To begin with I wouldn't say it "must" because it's just your opinion that takes part there, so a better word would be that it "should", and even then I still disagree.
I think Online Interactions should match the rating of the game in where they occur, because as I said you can't really expect to find people's attitude calm and polite in a game in where every character is swearing and being very aggressive towards enemies. Take as an example one of my favorite games, Gears of War. In there if you play a MP match it's usual than when you kill an enemy your character automatically says lines like "Eat s*** and die" and other similar lines. It's understandable that players while playing a game get dragged into its theme, and if a game has a hardcore violent and highly swear-ey theme players will act similarly while playing.
The "don't do to others what you don't want to do to you" is a valid point however, it's the Golden Rule after all. But as you know MANY people tend to defend themselves when attacked by someone, it's like in school if a bully harasses someone they prefer to defend themselves rather than telling the teacher. And the problem here is when they defend themselves the Xbox "bully" takes the chance to report them and mess them up, and that's a move that both Xbox Live and the players should recognize and correct, tricking people into being provoked to report them afterwards.
So far I don't have more to say save for one tiny nitpick: My gt is Spartan, not Sparta, as a reference to another beloved franchise of mine, Halo. Even the 312 is referencing Halo.
One thing I gotta say, is that saying "he/she deserved it" is purely subjectical. I'm not saying he doesn't deserve it or he does, I'm just saying that everyone here are different people with different views on things, and people gotta put that into consideration instead on labeling someone as an a**hole and keep on in a war of nonsense insults that end up in no winner. One thing I do gotta say is that Vamp technically didn't have anything to do with your ban, his mistakes on my opinion was instead to dismissing the people who are banned as some sort of criminal and stating a "Whatever you did you deserved it" point which I do find too bold to say the least, everyone has their trouble and some are victims of that, like in the whole "My brother used my Xbox without my permission and got me banned, it wasn't my fault" which gets countered by the "You're responsible for everyone using your profile" and the discussion goes on. About your ban, I'm surprised it went from 2 Week Bans to Perma Ban, that's a bit exaggerated, although technically after 6 temporary bans it kinda should be clear that your actions are against the current policy and should change before further measures apply at least for the sake of avoiding trouble, but the problem is how said policy was introduced all of a sudden without warning and caught many people like you or others in this thread off-guard by doing stuff that isn't allowed anymore even though it was cool before, which I think it's a way for the ET to filter the old players and leave room for new people due to backlash from overprotective parents yelling at Microsoft how their kids got "harassed" by someone else even though there are very easy methods to overcome that if people wanted, limiting children's communications. Xbox Live will always have trolls and aggressive people who yell and trash talk, for the like or dislike of everyone, and by making these rules so severe so suddenly they're obviously getting more negative feedback from people like you who are used to it and then it's not possible anymore without getting into trouble, and this could be fixed by re-purchasing your account to not lose all that hard-earned progress throughout 50+ games and say "Ok, got it, I don't really like this as much, but not much can be done about it, so might as well play along just to keep my stuff".
If I were to lose my account for whatever reason, I'd be both really depressed and mad about it, but at that point I wouldn't care if someone kicks me while I'm down, it's happened to me before in other subjects so I know I'm not bluffing. It happened to my friend for the most BS reason ever and adding this would be a lifesaver for him, he's a very legit, polite and educated guy who only swears with friends and even then rarely.
As I said I haven't read the entire thread, and seeing how right now it has 1363 comments it's pretty discouraging for me to read everything, I'm just lazy.
Again, I'm not supporting anyone here, I remain neutral, as in I personally don't like trash talking but don't have anything against the people who does it, the only thing I believe is that given how the ET has become more strict (regardless or whether someone is ok with it or not, I personally think they're taking things too far) people who trash talk should watch who are they talking to, as there are also people who report just about every message with swearing just to get people banned because they're damn trolls (hell, I even censor my swearing in messages to friends just in case, not taking chances). The zones you mentioned just kinda described the type of player you are, I always stuck to Recreational as I'm very chill and laid back, but my best friend had it in Underground and he always trashed talk a lot, yet he never got banned up until the Xbox One, and it was temporary only. Which brings me to the point in where I wonder one thing: Did you get temporary bans before losing the account or got straight up perma banned? Because if it's the first option then I hate to say it but it kinda makes sense, but if it's the second I do find that BS.
However, this post was to give the idea to give people the chance to buy their accounts back, and I still think that if implemented correctly it can be an excellent idea, but gotta add a bit of fine print. The point "The Enforcement Team has become too harsh" is up for another separate debate, but sadly I think that ain't gonna change anytime soon, being realistic.
I like to give constructive criticism for possible improvement or at least to say my words in the topic, but honestly I think complaining and arguing here is doing no good for anyone, and while I'm not forcing anyone to quit arguing I am asking for it, if my petition is denied and arguments keep on I'll just leave and move on because I dislike arguments. Again, not pointing at anyone, everyone here that's arguing is responsible because an argument can't occur if someone doesn't argue back. Giving constructive criticism is far better as it aims for improvement. If someone doesn't know what I'm talking about check the YouTube channel of The Act Man, he gives excellent point in his videos about the problems of videogames and stuff like that and I find it a big source of inspiration for giving constructive criticism.
Now here I am personally asking you the favor of actually quit the offensive comments you throw once in a while and bury down the hatchet. Again, I'm not siding with anyone or defending anyone here, I just want to avoid any more conflict, plus one thing that I do agree with Vamp is that engaging in arguments is not the best way to treat potential harassment, not even for the rules but simply because it usually doesn't end up well. It's like when a bully keeps messing with you and trash talking to you, I find the best options being calmly dismissing him or simply ignoring him rather than insult back as their intent is usually for people to do that and get in trouble. After all, society in real life isn't that much different than Xbox Live when it comes to that, and neither of them can be perfect for everyone's pleasure, everything has flaws.
Now Vamp, as I said, Xbox Live isn't really that much different to real life, the most obvious difference being the lack of physical interaction (thankfully IMO), so I think the rules shouldn't really be that much different either, Xbox Live can't become a utopia in where everyone is safe and happy, no one likes being controlled and monitored and personally I'm a person who's always up for freedom as long as it doesn't do direct harm, and personally I don't think trash talking or insulting is barely any harm, but that's just me, as I've grown to plainly not care at all when I get any insult from anyone. I do understand though that others do care and feel hurt but still, I don't think that's worth such a severe punishment, most people are in for the fun and just go f***ing around, I'm actually yet to meet someone who has read the CoC, like most people I know don't know the Constitution or have read the laws of where they live, they just play fair as they know the basics from common sense. I've recently discovered a good friend of mine had an account before I knew him from a long time but it got stolen and the one who stole it prompted him to get perma banned by sending threatening messages around posing as him, and the ET never did anything to understand him or recover it, but simply dismissed him with a generic computerized message and he had to start 7 years of dedication all over again. And that was simply a d*** move by the ET as he never broke the rules.
So yeah, while there will never be a flawless solution to this problem, the current system could definitely be improved, because trolls are sadly not gonna end, so at least do better for the rest to play fair, people just want to play and have fun, that's why everyone's here after all.
Ok, I'm back and I want to point out a few facts:
-I'm not associating with anyone here, I'm neutral in the conflict, I find each to have their own fair points and things they're wrong about IMO, I just give my thoughts, and I could be wrong too.
-I haven't read the entire thread because I'm too lazy for that :P I just read the latest posts, so I don't have all the info.
-I'm still here because I like to discuss and debate things, but in a polite and educated way, never attacking anyone, so if insults are gonna fly back and forth, I'll change my mind and simply leave the conversation.
Also, I decided that I'm gonna stick along just to see how things turn, I don't like conflicts but I do enjoy debating as long as people keep respect and do it for the sake of exchanging ideas and improving altogether. I'm gonna be off, and I'll be looking forward to see how things are when I come back!
Ok, even though I said that was it I feel like replying here, so yeah...
Tbh I haven't been perma banned or anything. I once got a 2-day communication ban because I went too hard on a troll, since then I watch my words more on Xbox, especially messages and keep the trash talk to when I speak to friends that I already have trust with. I just found this post while making feedback for other stuff and decided to give it a go because if implemented correctly it cam help the community.
Now one thing I forgot to mention and you kinda reminded me of if that I believe no one should get perma banned for communication straight away, that's what the temporary bans are for. Someone breaks a light rule, gets a light punishment, if they don't learn and do the same thing again then they get a heavier punishment for reiterate on it. First for a short time, then for a longer period of time and then go for perma ban, and paying let's say $50 for recover it would be a really dumb move from someone who hasn't learned (just saying, I'm NOT pointing at anyone here) to pay to recover an account that gets banned again for good shortly afterwards, paying would be like a proof of sorrow and redemption for the ones who actually want it back. In real life if someone is sent to prison for breaking the law they eventually get a chance to reinsert themselves and recover their lives, but if they don't learn they'll just keep rotting away in prison. Actually I was thinking of not only perma banning the ones that pay to then break rules again, but get their accounts fully deleted as the ultimate punishment, like a "We gave you a last chance, you f***ed up, now you pay the BIG deal".
Overall I feel like the Enforcement Team sometimes should empathize a bit more with the players and be a bit more comprehensive towards some players. After all they spent lots of money, time and dedication into your platform to then dismiss them if they make a mistake. I'd freak out if one day I found out that I lost everything I've been working for over my time on Xbox, and better not talk about losing the games I bought, considering I don't get a lot of money to buy stuff, all because I lose it one day and throw s*** at a bunch of people.
Long story short, they should find a way to redeem players who messed up and regret it while keeping out the ones that don't, and have the Enforcement Team be closer to the players, they have the resources and people to do it, and be more like they used to. Some people can deal with insults, but others can't, and everyone should realize that too. If I am to put blame here, it's not on one side or the other, but everyone has to take responsibility, admit and correct the mistakes to make Xbox a better place for everyone, because if people want change they're not gonna change by blaming each other but by admitting their flaws and working together towards solving them.
After all, all we want to do is play games and have fun, right?
You know, I'm just gonna stay outta the conflict. My thoughts are purely these: I'm up for this idea but it has to be implemented carefully and with some fine print on it so it's not abused by the ones that actually deserve a ban because they broke the rules big deal and don't learn from it.
The Enforcement Team has become more harsh these last few years in the attempt to make a more "child friendly" environment, and to me they've gone a bit too far with it, I think you shouldn't really expect a child friendly environment in a not-child friendly game, as a lot of Xbox games are rather violent, bloody, swear-ey and sometimes even sexual, so wanting a child friendly environment there is kinda nonsense if you ask me. Those are purely my thoughts that I'm leaving here, I'm not expecting to solve the conflict or change anyone's mind, that's up to Microsoft if they actually decide to drop around and do something about it for once, I'm just giving my part as constructive feedback, as that's what this is meant to be for.
With that said, I'm off :)
I do give him one point in that people would abuse the rebuying system, that I do find that it's a possibility, but I still disagree with just about everything else. Which is why I came up with the idea I mentioned, giving only one chance for this and said chance being denied if the ban was for something big like hacking during online games essentially breaking it. That way it wouldn't be abused of, making the idea work better. Maybe if after a period of time after recovering the account you get banned again for whatever reason you get yet another chance, but that time would have to be a long one, like 3 years or so. Everyone loses it at some point, and that point may be while playing Xbox.
I think the Vampire guy does have a point by saying it takes out the point of banning, but I think it could be like you can only re-buy it if the ban was due to communication, or light modding, but if it was by game-breaking hacks or something like that it's not possible. Also, Microsoft would be keeping a close eye for a while, like if you paid a fee, and if you screw up again you're banned again for good. People deserve a second chance for redemption if they regret their mistakes. Not everyone that gets banned are douchebags, sometimes they lose their temper and screw up, but they deserve a second chance if they truly show it, and that would be by paying, plus we haven't even talked about the price for recover it. I thing between $30 and $50 would be a reasonable price.
Hey, you didn't beat any of us, I just don't enjoy this argument myself and personally I would like it to stop. Microsoft is a huge company with billions of dollars on their side, true, but it doesn't give them the right to do as they please without no one opposing them. If someone has something against Microsoft (like here) they're fully entitled to go ahead and publish it because in this case it's bulls***. Many of us joined Xbox when it wasn't like this and ever since they changed the deal to something we didn't agree to and expect to just take it or leave it? Again, re-negotiating those terms can be very benefiting for both Microsoft's image and the players' overall satisfaction with the product we spent hundreds of dollars in for just the console and the Gold subscription, let alone the games. If people spend money on something they expect the best product possible, and if you get banned you lose EVERYTHING. If you got banned for cheating/modding/threatening people then you deserve it, true, but just swearing? That's just dumb.
Again, I would personally like this discussion to end as it ain't going nowhere. Sure I believe something needs to be done, but arguing here won't solve anything. Because I refuse to kiss anyone's butt, including Microsoft. And again, if a word filter is here, why not on Xbox? Or the settings mentioned above to just receive messages from friends, I'd gladly take that too.
Dude, he's not gonna change his attitude towards you, his replies are just gonna make you feel more infuriated each time, plus he's running out of responses by sorting to YouTube links. Give it up. I do think you have many fair points and something should definitely be done about it, but arguing here is turning into a never ending cycle and it's not gonna help. If you wanna take it to the media then that's great, see if by raising enough people's voice Microsoft realizes their mistakes. True there are people out there that should be banned, but people who just curse around shouldn't. Half my sentences have a cursing word and Im very chatty on Xbox, yet no one complains. Cursing does no harm whatsoever, if someone is *** over some little cursing they should just deal with it. You don't get arrested in any civilized country by cursing at someone. Only if it becomes true harassment it should be acted upon, just like harassing or threatening someone IS forbidden. Other than that, I believe cheating in games and such is worth more bans than it deserves. Team Killing, exploiting glitches to one's advantage, those should be far more punished than just random little insults.
Plus I'm thinking even more that he's just a lifeless troll who just gets fun out of others' disgrace.
You know what, I don't even care anymore, I know you're never gonna give in, not even a tiny little bit. But I'm still going to keep my conceps even clearer: I don't bow to the CoC, I don't ever bow before anything. And Xbox isn't even the Top Platform, while it's my personal favorite because 2 of my most beloved franchises are in it, being Halo and Gears of War, it's known that the PS4 has bigger sales and benefits, and whether you like it or not that's statistic. I'm not a big Sony fan since the PS2 but I am actually looking forward to get a PS3 to play a few games I really want not available on Xbox. Also, I'm still a pretty big Nintendo fan as well, being with it since the 64 as I was born on its times and playing GameCube, Wii, and I look forward to get a Wii U (and probably the Switch at some point too) for the same as the PS3 but to a higher level as well as gifting my little sister a 3DS.
Talk about my sister, she's still a child, but she actually behaves very maturely. Guess what, she curses quite a lot! And I don't punish her or anything for that, and neither of our parents ever said anything either. And that really helped her to be tough and not take s***, recently she got bullied by an idiot and she defended herself pretty well, verbally and physically! On our current society, children need to be strong because life is harsh and they won't always have someone protecting them, so they need to learn defend themselves.
As you said, online interactions aren't rated, but that doesn't mean they're E, it means they AREN'T RATED! They could range between E to M, usually being near the game's rating.
You can't expect people to learn a lesson if they think it's dumb or it must be changed, less if you try to teach them the hard way. It's been psycologically proven that positive reinforcement is more effective than negative reinforcement at the time of teaching something. When you say "Don't" many people have the impulse to "Do". Put a button reading "Don't Touch" in a room with people and they will eventually press it. It's the psychology of breaking stablished rules, and the fact that when something is forbidden people have the urge to do it? Shall we let them? I say it depends on the situation. *** is forbidden and people shouldn't do it, that's an obvious one for example. But this? I find this dumb as I believe cursing isn't bad whatsoever. Constant insults or threats are more severe but simple cursing that believe it or not almost everyone does since childhood? That's not bad, it goes against the freedom of speech that I believe in, not as a constitutional right, but as a moral and universal right.
I didn't say Xbox was a dictatorship, I said you are making it look like one.
Whether it's good or not to defend yourself, most people do that, and Microsoft can't change that. I believe just some cursing and insulting is ok, especially with most games beinm M Rated where the characters themselves curse, you expect people heated by the game. If it was a Nintendo-ish family friendly game where everyone is nice then I'd give you more of a point as it'd be out of place, but most Xbox games and gamers have a more agressive nature. It's for children's sake? If someone actually cared about them they shouldn't allow them to play M Rated games on the first place, less online, as they're exposed to the Internet. I'd find the line in constant insult spam even if you don't reply or something big like threatening or something similar, but not plain insults, everyone gets heated up, especially when offended by someone else. On the Internet, people are always like this and always will be, and Xbox Live is in the Internet, so unless they ban most of the Xbox players thus going bankrupt due to lack of customers and profit that ain't gonna change, even if they didn't go bankrupt more trolls will come, as trolling will -unfortunately- never die out.
Point is, you can't go against people's nature, and by doing some changes and tweaks here and there I think it could benefit both parties, as each one is just as important as the other. There's no flawless solution, but that doesn't mean we can't try to look for a less flawed solution than the current one which only seems to appeal to one party.
That previous comment with that list of reasons was just a copypaste of the "Get Banned Accounts Back" thread, proving he doesn't even care. The way he sees it is Xbox = Almighty godly entity, Players = Expendable little ants. As I said, this guy makes Xbox look like a dictatorship. He tells people what they "must" do when someone messes with them, but each person is different, and so each solve their own problems differently, and that's a concept both you and the ET needs to grasp. Defending yourself is the very first natural thought of someone when in trouble, you can see that since childhood. It's a natural instinct, you can't fight against that. True, it MIGHT not be the best choice and true, others don't do this, me, I've learned to not feel offended and completely ignore those people, but most others aren't that way. You are defending here Xbox when someone talks about them just like others defend themselves the same way, so don't think you're that different, neither am I since I defend people from you here as well as support them for what I think they're right. Does that make me a fool or an idiot? The answer is no. I'm just defending my own beliefs and ideals, and others may disagree but that's normal, just don't disregard other people's opinions, less with that kind of superiority complex you seem to have.
Then again, you're looking to me as a troll that just wants to trigger people at this point, and because I could easily be wrong about that I'll give you the benefit of doubt on it.
And tbh I wouldn't trust the player rep as some read good despite being a**holes (NOT saying that's you) while others read "Needs Work" or even "Avoid me" and they can be nice people. The rep system feels to me like it just labels people with the side effect that it gives preconceived images of the player. As I said, you may come up with someone that reads "Avoid me" and instantly block him/her just for that without getting to know him/her, when maybe if you speak to them you can find them nice and become friends, they may just have a shady past but have changed, met a huge bunch or reporting spammers or use someone else's old account who caused it to be that way, as examples.
Today's lesson kids: Don't judge people because of their rep, because that s*** is broken.
PS: Not calling anyone kid here, just trying to bring some humor.
Tbh idk what's worse, losing all the money spent in games and stuff or lose all the hard earned progress you've been making for years. I guess it depends on the amount of money spent and your economy vs the amount of progress you have and the satisfaction you gained by getting that. To me honestly, I would be more mad about losing my progress as I don't buy many stuff and the progress has to be earned again, resetting months of grinding or being put through infuriating challenges again that you thought you weren't gonna touch ever again after beating them once. But I guess that is all subjective and it depends on each individual.
Bigger and better than ever? That's clearly a fake statement, everyone knows the golden age of Xbox was mostly on the late 2000s with the 360 being still young and games like Gears of War, Halo 3 and Bioshock were at their peak with many millions of fans. Wonder if it has to do with the fact that people had more freedom and the ET weren't being douchebags back then. You're making Microsoft look like a virtual dictatorship, where you suffer when you don't play their way and get rejected and deemed expendable, while still claiming that "Everything is completely ok", and while I admit it's not THAT bad it's not too far fetched. There are WAAAAY more than 900 people affected by this, they just don't even bother going to this forums because most just quit Xbox or start over without doing anything about it. If everyone that was perma banned because of the current ET being the way it is came here the court would easily be over 50,000 at least, I bet you that. The banned people aren't a minority, the ones that come here to try to do something about it sadly are.
You're right. I mean, after all, when people play on Xbox, what they mainly care about is to just play and enjoy the game. Whether someone is a chill and casual player or a hardcore competitive player we all aim to just enjoy the game the way we like it, and swearing is a common thing almost everyone has. Plus from personal experience, the ones that seem to insult and swear the most are the 8-12 yo kids who keep yelling s*** on the chat and better not message them or they'll spam you with poorly written, barely understandable insults. I VERY RARELY see a kid below 8 on Xbox Live and most around that age already know a ton of insults whether they use them or not. So the "It's for protecting the children" argument is almost invalid to me as most I see are far from the innocent and fragile beings they make them look like.
Not too long ago I contacted support for another unrelated issue and actually I was greatfully surprised by the guy who attended me, being another gamer that just wanted to help people! He effectively solved my issue while keeping me from boredom with chatter, focusing on the customer's well being first as it should be. But then there are the others who don't give a f*** about the customer, they just want to get their paycheck and go home, and that's the bad side of it. Calling support is a lottery in regards to who are you going to find. If I met a mean or cold support agent I'd just leave and try again hoping I get a better one.
Whatever, I did report him for impersonating a Microsoft employee, but the feedback forums aren't nearly as watched over as the regular Xbox Live, there are bot/fake accounts that keep posting spam and nothing is done about it, less for this guy here. Especially when it's not his OG account, which means that no matter what he'll keep trolling as nothing will be done to his OG account, same as nothing is barely done to the alts.
PS: Sorry about the long post, just imagine how long this took to write on the Xbox...
Well, after about one day I come back because unlike what Vamp says I have a life and usually come here because I check my email and I have notifications from here.
And I 100% know it's you Vamp, and Grid, you may notice this easily by going to the thread I came from, looking at replies from VampireClaws36 and comparing the text and expressions being IDENTICAL. Again, I suggest you don't try to argue with this guy because he's being repeating itself for YEARS on and at this point I strongly believe he's nothing but a lifeless troll who likes to offend and *** of people here, and he's most likely bluffing about him being an ET Worker, because Microsoft isn't that stupid to hire someone like him, and if they did they wouldn't have him wandering in the feedback threads insulting people in every banning-related thread (he called you an A**hole so there).
And the only reason because I barely even message random players is simply because it's not a part of my personality, I'm very introvert to the point to barely saying anything at all to strangers and when I do it comes very simple and blunt, plus I like to stay away from trouble overall. Even back at high school when bullies came at me I didn't fight back before I felt more comfortable ignoring them as they didn't anger me, and I apply the same tactic on Xbox, if someone for whatever reason sends me offensive messages I ignore them and simply delete the message, not even reporting or blocking as it's near impossible to offend me with just words. I resort to blocking just when I get spammed or added without consent (which I point out in another thread regarding that issue), and I only report when someone cheats in a game by exploiting glitches or hacks on the 360. However I know everyone's different and they may like more to talk with others and voice themselves, and given how a good chunk of games on the Xbox are M Rated Action games (which in many cases have lots of swearing such as one of my personal favorites Gears of War) people are expected to swear and many times get mad in the heat of the game, plus trolling is something that no matter what will never die out unfortunately and no one can say they've never trolled at the very least once to a friend or random player. Actually when I speak and text to friends I'm a very heavy swearer, they never report me because being my friends they know that it's not in a bad way but in a joke, and viceversa. I once had a friend (not anymore) who had a very bad habit of reporting every little thing someone did to him, including killing him on a game where that's what we're supposed to do, just because he found it fun to report people randomly. Me and the rest of my group ditched him when that cost one of us a temporary ban and he didn't even apologize.
Point is, normally when Person A messes with Person B, the latter tennds to fight back because it's a natural thing, instinctive even. Humans are animals after all, and by natural instinct they're proud and territorial, so when they're messed with they defend themselves. It's always been that way, and Microsoft should, nay, MUST realize that. Me, I'm just a particular case and I don't feel offended when someone messes with me and so I lack that need for fighting back, but most people aren't that way, statistically people are more likely to retaliate, both in Xbox and real life, and whether that's good or bad that's just how it is, no one can change that. I'm different to that but I respect that others aren't, and I'm ok with it. No one should try to change someone else's mindset or behavior because that's what makes us different (unless said person is a hazard for society, such as a murderer, but not this), nor supress their emotions because that always ends up in the person being a time bomb which keeps supressing anger until it's too much and explodes, which is never good and can end in disaster.
Well, I think my message is clear now, Grid, feel free to tell me whether you agree or not in my points, Vamp who desperately claims to not be Vamp even though it's clear he is, I know you'll most likely dismiss most if not all my points probably with some bulls*** with the CoC in your hands like it's the absolute thing -it's not- and stepping over morals and rights just to defend Microsoft so better if you don't bother for the sake of my remaining brain cells after you slaughtered a good part of them.
Yup, I know you and you know me, don't lie because I recognize you.
Plus I personally barely even text to random people overall, just to friends, and the few times I message someone I always remain calm because I dislike pointless conflict, so I'm not concerned. This is for the good of Xbox Live and the players. Ideally for me this wouldn't be necessary if Microsoft didn't ban this stuff because they s*** on freedom of speech which I personally feel like it must be an absolute thing everywhere, but since people get offended easily that's not a thing or ever will be a thing so this can help
You know, I honestly don't think he's even from Enforcement, at this point I think he's either a mere troll who just wants to *** people off with alts so his OG account isn't disturbed or a huge Microsoft suck-up. And my comments weren't filtered at first so just wanted to make sure. Further proof of a word filter not being that hard.
Huh, if my words from the last post aren't filtered for you either, I find it weird because it has worked before, might have to do with the ( ) symbols. Let me try again: ***
Ok, I had just written a very long comment regarding this guy, your idea and Xbox, but then I realized the page had signed me out since the last time I was here even though I marked the "Keep me signed in" thingy so it didn't save and since I use the Xbox's Microsoft Edge to browse because I don't have anything else I can't copypaste it and I don't feel like writing all that again so I'll just give a quick version of it:
Don't pay attention to this guy, he's a complete douche with no moral and regards for human rights who gets fun of others' disgrace and supports a company that is forcing on us a deal we never agreed to that makes it look like a dictatorship with the "obey or suffer" thing and I compared it to the Galactic Empire from Star Wars. Lastly, I do find both your ideas good, simple and easy, even this forum has a word filter (*** ***) so it's not hard. Just try your best to find people to support you, your post is just new yet, you got my vote now, that's for sure.
Well personally idc, I just want to be able to play it on my Xbox One. And it's still HD. Actually, to me it's even better because I found the lighting too bright and the shadows felt weird, I liked it more in the PS2 version, so yeah. Plus if it's back compat it'll be the exact same as the Xbox 360 version anyways.
I completely agree, I own this on the PS2 but I want the Xbox version. Sucks they ported it to PS4 but not Xbox One, they could either make it back compat or release a Xbox One port, either way I want it.
Also, while we're at it, how about launching the 3 Original Games for 360 like they did on PS3 for Xbox Live Arcade or something and maybe put those back compat too? That way me and other fans would be able to play all the major Titles (0-7, CV and both Revelations) on the Xbox One. Hell, I was planning to buy a PS3 just for those, but if that happens it'd be much better. Perhaps this could be done when Resident Evil 2 Remake launches and giving the early copies codes for free download of these games.
3,263 votes386 comments · Home, Xbox Guide, and Settings » Snap and Quick Menu · Flag idea as inappropriate… · Admin →
I honestly don't care what they put as long as I can do what I used to, put YouTube and play music in it while playing. If it covers a part of my game screen then it's not a good idea because it limits my vision and can make playing very difficult. Snapping made the game screen smaller but didn't cover any of it so that's good. I could care less about performance, I can tolerate any issue unless it makes the game completely unplayable, I'd rather get a frame drop than have my vision covered.
110% yes to this. I loved to use snapping, especially to snap YouTube and play my Music Playlist while I play, it feels way better to have epic background music, and at times it feels more inmersive, I play Halo 5 a lot and when I played a Custom Game with for example a Star Wars theme to it I snapped a Star Wars soundtrack to get a better feel for it, but now I can't do it anymore, because I don't own any other devices as of now (no phone, tablet or computer of any kind). I don't care about the performance, it felt the same to me save for a few frame rate drops here and there but I was ok with it, I didn't even care about the game screen going smaller. The Xbox One had snapping as a major selling point when it launched, so removing it is a very dumb move. Removing features people liked is nonsense, the only people that I've seen complaining about it are the ones who are obsessed with having the best performance they possibly can who eventually always switch to PC, but since those are the ones who spend the most money they cater to them leaving casual players aside. I want this back ASAP!
As the title reads, I want snapping back, nay, I NEED it back. I don't own other devices but my Xbox One, no computer, phone, tablet, nothing but my Xbox, both 360 and One. And one thing I REALLY loved to do was snapping YouTube to the side of my screen and play my Music Playlist while playing some games with my friends, it was so cool and epic! But then Snapping got removed so I can't do this anymore, and I damn miss it! I don't even know why it was removed on the first place! So either Microsoft brings it back or they put something that allows us to do the same or better, but don't remove a feature that was a major selling point for the Xbox One and many people loved! I never heard anyone complaining about it, so until they give me an explanation as to why they took it out, for all I care they did it to annoy us! Microsoft, I'm being very serious now. Bring. Back. Snapping! And soon!
They don't. They had it on the Xbox 360, but no longer on the Xbox One. I swear, Xbox One may have been quite some steps forward, but also a few backward.
Guess what, this afternoon I just got added by a BOT! I got added by one of those bots like in Skype that attempt to scam people but on Xbox! I mean, this is beyond stupidity now. I can't do anything about that! Bull-f***ing-s***!
True that, to begin with no girl that I've seen adds someone for no reason and gives their age and stuff, that's obviously trolls. That's why I'd like to have a way to not let them add me.
@KeptDragoon6807 I honestly don't think Microsoft is gonna do much more with the 360 anymore, especially since back compat it looks like they're done with the 360, sorry.
110% agree! I'm SICK of random people adding me as a friend when I don't know them at all, I hate appearing in the friends list of a guy who added me without my permission, and to make it worse, spam me with invites that half the time are from games I don't have or want to have and never responding to my messages saying "Please don't spam me" and "I don't know you, so please remove me" but they don't reply or change their attitude because they're being trolls, dumb or don't understand English. I even stated this on my bio but it really doesn't help as no one bothers to read it. I want it so if someone wants to be my friend they send me a request and if I don't know them I simply ask or dismiss it. Have it as an option so you allow to everyone to add you freely or they have to send you a friend request first. It doesn't look hard to do if it was on the 360.
Off-topic, but can Xbox do something about these *** bots that keep on spamming the forums? Seriously, it's pissing me off.
I'm up for this, charging $10 for a gt change is kind of ridiculous. I thought it could be like free once a year and then charge like $5 per change if someone wants to , but limited to 5 paid changes until next year, or simply leave it in 3-5 free changes a year. I know Microsoft doesn't want people to change their tags every month, and that's understandable. I had a friend who paid $70 within a year because he kept joining clans or simply because he got obsessed with something and wanted his gt to be related to it, so this doesn't really stop people from changing gt like crazy as long as they have money, but there are people like me who can't even afford a gt change as all the money is spent in basic needs, Internet and Gold (not that I want to change it, I've always had this gt and I still like it).
In conclusion, something must be done about this, because it's overly monetized, and it's been that way far too long. Customers are first, right?
6,954 votes203 comments · Home, Xbox Guide, and Settings » Xbox Opportunities · Flag idea as inappropriate… · Admin →
I already have to pay many other things in life, so personally I don't like to pay for playing a game with my friends, I already paid to buy the console and the games and that's all I should pay. Sadly the videogame market is being monetized more everyday until the point in where we'll get charged for logging into a game or the Xbox itself. I keep struggling to pay every month because I can't save up even for a 3 Months subscription so I have to buy them monthly because it'd take out from other basic needs otherwise. I just want to play the games I like with the people I appreciate, it's not so hard to make that a free thing.
This is just me here, and I bet quite a few will disagree but I'd be willing to sacrifice the discounts and even the free games for free Xbox Live. Almost every free game that comes up doesn't even interest me and the games that I actually want are discounted quite rarely, and never free. If anything I'd put that and a couple more features in a VIP Pass to pay, leaving Multiplayer and standard party chat free. It's already enough with paying for the Internet and bearing with the microtransactions present in almost every game nowadays. I can barely buy a new game every 6 months, and I'm talking about $20 games!
I'm not switching to PS4 or PC, I'm not buying other console because I have everything here on Xbox. I just don't find necessary to pay for Multiplayer.
Yeah, but it's still worth trying. The games with Gold may get a pass, but some people like me are very selective with games and aren't interested in getting 95% of those games, while the games I'm interested in are never free, or by the time they are I've been having them for a long while.
They could make MP free and leave Games with Gold, discounts and stuff like that as the actual Gold, like if it was an optional Pass instead of being necessary for 90% of the Xbox Live services.
Can someone tell me what is it with this damn spam? It's ticking me off
I think this is an excellent idea! I'd say how about getting one free game of your choice unnder specific conditions!? Like only for Gold Members, the game must be at least one year old (to not have people get for free brand new games), or tie the reward to the time the user has been on Xbox Live? User would have to be at least a year with a Xbox Live Gold membership to get these rewards, as an idea. This would prevent people from making alternative accounts to get these rewards, to keep it to Gold users with at least a year on Xbox Live. But it would be a great way to reward loyal members.
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2,855 votes721 comments · Profile, Achievements, & Game Hubs » Achievements · Flag idea as inappropriate… · Admin →
You technically could by earning them again if you wanted, but somebody would have to be a real douche to do that to you. But you could make it a password-restricted option so only you can access it, there are ways to get over that issue, no idea is flawless, but I think it's worth it, I really want to see a few games here and there gone from my profile, achievements included. I also want it simply because I create alt accounts to start some games again from scratch for entertainment, but each time I have to create a new one again because I can't delete the achievements to restart it again.
I COMPLETELY agree here. There have been games that I've played that I later regretted playing, but since I got game data and achievements they are PERMANENTLY in my profile! I don't want people to see I played certain games or be reminded myself that I played them! I should be able to delete the achievements and data I have from them so they don't show up anymore! Also, I have my account on a close friend's Xbox and one day he signed up accidentally as me while playing Minecraft, which I don't play or like personally, but since then it's on my profile data with 0% completion! I don't want it to be there! Achievements are like virtual tattoos for me: Once you get it there's no way you can get rid of them, and in the Xbox One that also goes for game data even without any achievements, and that's dumb! When the 360 has a good feature that could easily be on the Xbox One but it's not there, there's a problem. I don't care if my gamerscore lowers, I just want those achievements and games to vanish from my profile as if I never played them!
Yeah, this is pretty stupid, it looks like you can't do almost anything on the Xbox One when you don't have an Internet connection, hell, if I try to play a digital game offline without the owner having that Xbox as the Home Xbox I can't start up the game! But back on topic, when my little sister wanted to play Xbox with me it told me I had to create a Microsoft account for her to play, and that's nonsense. She doesn't want a Guest as she wants to have her data saved, and if I want her to have an account I have to spend 15+ minutes before playing to create a Microsoft Account and a profile for her? She just wants to play with me on local split screen, with 0 interest in online play, but I still have to open an Xbox Live Account for her?! Well, that actually was such a letdown that she didn't even want to play anymore! If Microsoft wants to be protective with children, they should begin by letting the ones that don't even want to play online to have a local offline account without exposing them to Xbox Live, just like in the Xbox 360! It's easier and safer and gives more freedom as they can have any name they want without having to worry about it being taken because it's not a gamertag. The Xbox One is meant to be the next step after the 360, but to me it looks like the 360 has many features the Xbox One doesn't and would make it much better for many people.