Hey i was banned and i was never abusive or stupid. All i ever did was smack talk which is allowed according to their own ToS but they claim my smack talk was harassment. Telling someone "blow me" for example (especially to someone team killing you) is not harassment or abuse ffs that is typical smack talk and i got away with saying that in middle school, but oh watch out saying something like that on xbox because they are more strict than a middle school now and they will ban you quick. In the end they just lose money for it, i havent given them a dime since i was banned and in the year or 2 its been they probably woulda got a couple hundred bucks out of me at least. So whatever i guess
Lol we get it vamp! you think the system is without any kind of flaws, its 100% perfect, there couldnt possibly be a single victim EVER so everyone who claims to be is a liar, blahdy blahdy blah... And guys like i said i wonder if its more corrupt than him just being a loser troll... Look up the term "sock puppet"
Well I am innocent vamp lol. And you can call me a liar all day but i aint one. I was banned for harassment, threats, and or abuse which is a joke... I dont harass, abuse, or threaten anybody ever. Period. I might have done that back in the day and got bans for it on my record and ill say myself i deserved them, but i was a 14-16 year old kid trying to be shocking and get attention. Now im a 24 year old adult and i dont do that stuff anymore, the worse i might do is smack talk which code of conduct itself says is ok. AND i only smack talk to team killers, cheaters, etc... The A holes of the gaming community, not random peeps minding their own buisness. and i wouldnt even use swear words just in case... And despite all of that, someone at enforcement thought me telling a cheater they were trash was going too far and i was abusing that person. LMAO what. a. joke. What did i accidently harass or threaten somebody without knowing it? Is that possible? Lol i dont think so... And like ill ever know cuz i cant contact enforcment or see what i did to get banned.
Vamp? SORT OF hypocritical??? What an understatement....
"Its true trash talk is indeed permitted but not in the way A$$boy do here as you guys can see how he does harass me and hey he said profanity is healthy for him since he was a kid and he proudly does say bad words both in real life and on XBL. shm" keep being the shining example of how the system is broken vamp lmao
Well if you were harassing, abusing and or threatening people and you earned your ban, then sure its complimentary for both you and microsoft. But I didnt. i never harass abuse or threaten ANYBODY, which is what they banned me for. I might smack talk here and there (which isnt against the rules, in fact they say its ok) and I wouldnt even use swear words for crying out loud... So if anybody should be getting paid over this its ME and others like me being abused by a clearly broken report system. And aReA5151 i will at least check out those sites, but im a nobody with little money i dont think im the kinda guy who will make much of an impact. Ive been more just spreading the word about how broken and or corrupt xbox has gotten. But if i can get a message to microsoft free and easy then hey ill do it, i just dont want to waste any more of my time or money on this *** because to me it looks pretty hopeless about getting the stuff i paid for back let alone my account and its achievments.
Hes got a point though. We are not little children playing E for everyone games, we shouldnt be getting punished for saying "*** you" in a game where theres already swearing, sex and beheadings. its not harassment, its not a threat, its not abuse... And instead of bending over and paying microsoft MORE money to get the stuff we already paid full price for back, we should all as angry as cloud and say *** YOU MICROSOFT FOR STEALING OUR ***. I tell you what they can try and sell my account of 8 years back to me for a dime and they wouldnt get it out of me, i got too much pride for that slap in the face
I mean im starting to think its more sinister than that. 5 months here day in day out for no other reason than to troll? Nah, Im thinking vamp is whats known as a sockpuppet, "a false online identity, typically created by a person or group in order to promote their own opinion or views" i dont think he would waste five months of effort for this forum if he was just a sad troll. Hes clearly got an agenda.
Ya just laugh and feel bad for vamp. Trolls feed mostly off anger... pity and sadness for them isnt the kinda attention they are after. I dont even read what he says, i just do a quick skim and then go oh ya same thing he said the last 20 times nuttin new lol.
Well i appreciate what youre sayin Area and almost anyone else who comes to the page will as well. Youre being totally logical and living in reality, vamp is being illogical and living in his own reality. And btw even though i feel bad for vamp cuz clearly not a normal well adjusted person, i still gotta respect the fact he can sit here and troll like every day for the past five months lol. I mean its messed up and hes a total jerk but at same time wow thats dedication. Just gotta sit back and laugh at what a weirdo he is i guess :-p
Heres why your crimes and police file analogy doesnt work vamp. My account being wiped and everything i own taken away is the worst possible punishment they can give, right? Over just simple smack talk... All i do is smack talk but i get the same punishment they give to cheaters, racists, thieves, all those kinds of people. And a smack talk ban on xbox should be the equivalent of a parking ticket in real life, and i can get 100 parking tickets never pay any off ever and they will never throw me in prison with the liars, cheaters, thieves, those kinds of people, because the punishment doesnt fit the crime even though it happened 100 times. Smack talk isnt that bad (and technically not even against the rules according to toc), and not paying parking tickets isnt that bad, so why are they giving the worst possible punishment for something that isnt that bad.
And as dumb as trolling is, its still not against the rules. Who here feels harassed and threatened right now? Nobody lol (except vamp maybe...) Its all just smack talk, i bet we are all having a bit of fun in fact. And fyi at worst THATS ALL I EVER DID and still got banned forever. Tho i had strikes i deserved already they were no joke 6-7 years old, and after being good with no problems for 6 years they shoulda dissappeared. I never even used profanity on xbox just to be safe during those 6 and at the end still got me on two random "harassment" bans lol. Vamps you dont honestly think the system is flawless 100% perfect, youve said so yourself, but then you sit here and act like there cant be any victims and the people who claim to be you decide are liars. I dont think you know what harassment and threats really are, you just want xbox to be a safe space for you special snowflakes.
Vamps is really triggered lately lol, what did fathers day bring up some bad memories? Trollin wont make the memories go away
Uh oh the troll got triggered lol.
You know vampire i honestly feel bad for you bro i do. u spend months here replying to everybody, trying to be a jerk and kick people when theyre down. But why? Are you that desperate for attention? Normal happy people dont act the way u do vampire, the stereotypical fat lonely troll is what you act like. Anyways ill check back in another month, you can go back to your god complex and pretending youre a happy person with all your forced smiley faces and XOXO's lol
And see thats the problem, from what ive seen the people who are actually ruining games and making online toxic arent being punished, no they are the ones doing all the reporting and the people who send "hate mail" to them are the ones being punished. Itd be like playing a basketball game and someone on the other team is cheating and fouling people and just not playing fair... and then i say to the ref, are you gonna do something about this ***? And then the ref kicks me out of the game for swearing and the cheater fouler gets to stay in the game and keep playing. It doesnt make any sense and its not going after the people causing the problems in the first place
Even the forums think saying you suck is fine lol. They censor the word scr.ewed lol... but i can say you suck you suck you suck all day with no censors :)
such a hypocrite ffs...Vampire you just said it again yourself dude. Smack talk is ok, but when it turns into abuse its wrong. So how is saying you suck to somebody abuse and not just smack talk lol? You SAY smack talk is ok, but you act like it should be if you dont have anything nice to say then you say nothing at all, or else... i think youre one of those sjw types who say they love freedom of expression and ideas, but really all you care about is having everything be your way or the highway and with your actions you really crap on freedom of expression and ideas. If you think saying "you suck" is abuse (and i only ever said you suck to hackers, cheaters, and trolls too btw) you have some serious growing up to do.. And you can tell me i did all this stuff bla bla bla but im an honest genuine person and i know i didnt abuse harasss or threaten anybody and i know i dont deserve this ban. I *** up a few times maybe 7 YEARS AGO when i was a kid, but since then ive grown up and done the same thing every day i played and only now all of a sudden when xbox one comes around do i get banned. Ive told family, friends, and complete strangers exactly how this all went down and they all agreed it was to totally *** up and unjustified. And most people in these forums agree with me as well. So is everybody wrong and youre just right? I doubt it... But continue trolling bro. Honestly youre just helping the cause with the attention you bring, and the more you troll the more you make us look like the sensible ones on the right side of the fence.
Is telling somebody they suck considered defaming, abusing, harassment, stalking, or threatenting though? It didnt used to be, but nowadays it seems something that simple is considered abusing a person... Thats the real problem here. and thats why people are now speaking out much more on xbox one because none of that simple smack talk (which to many people makes gaming more fun) was considered harassment or abuse. Only if you called someone the N word or threatened them or something that serious was it a problem. But no just say someone sucks and boom youre banned. They changed what abuse and harassment means and thats why saying "oh you signed the code of conduct bla bla bla" argument just doesnt work and isnt fair.
The thing with justice is not only do you ask if the person commited the crime, but does the punishment fit the crime too? Anyone with half a brain can see taking away everything you own for naughty words is so unfair its not even funny. Thatd be like getting a speeding ticket and then the police taking your car and license away and now you gotta go out and buy another one, and for what going 10 miles over the speed limit? Thats basically what microsoft is doing. Im playing mortal kombat with beheadings and *** and *** and im getting in trouble for telling someone while playing that game that they are a ***? What are we worried im gonna trigger someone calling them a *** while they are watching people being beheaded lol? No i dont think so... Its a joke
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You know vampire id like you to answer this, if any of this stuff was said over xbox text do you think what youve said in these forums so far should be bannable? Because just you trolling and calling people emo kids and what not is more abuse and harassment than i ever did over xbox...
Did i say i used nice words? No... I said the words i used were NOTHING close to harassment and abuse. But xbox enforcement, not microsoft, sees anything not nice as harassment now. And fyi I wouldnt use the word p ussy either. If i called some random person p ussy on xbox i myself could see that as harassment just because of the profanity. But no call a couple people scrubs and spammers is all it takes. And also i like how fast you reply, where do you work that allows you so much free time every day to sit on these forums doing your "awesome trolling" lol. You happen to work for xbox enforcement???
The thing about the code of conduct is enforcement gets to interpret it however they want. So now people are being banned for harrassment and abuse when what they are doing really wasnt harassment and abuse (unless you are a little insecure p ussy) so thats why people are getting banned over saying something like get good scrub or something like that because thats all i would ever say and i got perma banned over it... But hey, i can be still be happy. Id rather lose my account and everything i owned on xbox over some BS than be a sad troll like vampire at the end of the day. I think we can all agree on that. Plus goin pc master race now i wont have to pay an extra 60 dollars a year to use online services lol. Anyways keep up the good work peeps, nothings impossible. Unless your vampire trying to get laid cuz thats basically impossible
The thing is i didnt do anything wrong though vampire. Ive got an old account and back in the day when i got banned, i deserved it ill be honest. I actually cussed in text all the time and said racist crap, but i was young and a troll like you ;) just not with the god complex. I would consider what i did back then harassment and or abuse. But now when im much older, all i do is tell someone get good and i get banned permanently??? I was specifically careful not to be bad with smack talking as to not get banned and i still ended up banned... Thats because people today are so pc sjw and about safe spaces, and now its come to xbox in that telling someone something like get good is seen as abuse and harassment. That is a complete joke. I shouldnt lose a couple hundred dollars worth of digital crap and 8 years worth of achievments for telling somebody get good. That is not fair. But anyways like you suggested ive already kissed it all goodbye and have cut ties with xbox. at least in the sense that they will never get another cent out of me unless i magically get my account back one day. Its their loss really, possible thousands lost out for stealing a couple hundred. Plus i can still play all my hard copy games off my roomates gold on my new worthless account, and now i dont have to worry about smack talk anymore because communication bans mean nothing and i can just make new accounts whenever i want so not only has microsoft lost out on money, but theyve created an even bigger problem now!
Same here area5151, much appreciated bro.
Vampire putting a little winky face on every sentence isnt fooling anybody ;) We all know trolls are sad sacks in real life... I know it might be hard but you should really quit commenting on here day after day and maybe go out and try to make some friends. Otherwise good luck with the troll life
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Vampire you dont really wish people luck on the matter though lol. Like others have already said you are cuz of some weird god complex thing thing youve got and youre getting jollies over hearing about people being *** over. Fricken weirdo like you i honestly wouldnt be surprised if you did work for enforcement.
The thing is that enforcement has become a bunch of pc sjw children and they want xbox to be a safe space for everybody. Its not like the old days. If you dont have anything nice to say then you say nothing at all or else you are at their mercy. Something as simple as telling someone "get gud" is seen as harassment now. My friends are shocked that im perma banned because in real life im the nicest guy they know. I just enjoy some smack talk when i play my M RATED GAMES you know where theres beheadings and sex what not. Im never racist, dont make threats, dont swear unless other people are swearing, dont spam inboxes, yet somehow a little trash talk and i end up getting permanently banned. Im not giving another cent to them unless i get my account back someday, otherwise im goin ps4 or pc master race. They already got the few hundred bucks on my account, but the thousands they would have gotten from me in the future they can say goodbye to. Hopefully this gets fixed in the future somehow but im very doubtful. I guess i should have read all those pages of conduct over and over just to see the fine print where they say they can take everything you own. I guess it coulda been worse tho, i coulda ended up a human centipad or somethingSquareData64087 supported this idea ·